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Sun G - 22 Feb 2005 07:22 GMT
Lot of MVPs here. I just want to know how One can become a MVP.

Sun
Howard Kaikow - 22 Feb 2005 07:32 GMT
take a look at GetOpenFileName

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Howard Kaikow - 22 Feb 2005 07:33 GMT
Oops, I posted this 2 wrong thread.

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Michael Cole - 22 Feb 2005 07:50 GMT
> Lot of MVPs here. I just want to know how One can become a MVP.

Its not what you know, its who you know, and what you have on them. :-)

But try http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

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Ken Halter - 22 Feb 2005 15:19 GMT
> Lot of MVPs here. I just want to know how One can become a MVP.
>
> Sun

One way is to help a bunch of people and answer a whole lot of questions....

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Jan Hyde - 22 Feb 2005 15:27 GMT
"Ken Halter" <Ken_Halter@Use_Sparingly_Hotmail.com>'s wild
thoughts were released on Tue, 22 Feb 2005 07:19:23 -0800
bearing the following fruit:

>> Lot of MVPs here. I just want to know how One can become a MVP.
>>
>> Sun
>
>One way is to help a bunch of people and answer a whole lot of questions....

And then sacrifice a goat... or am I thinking of something
else....

Jan Hyde (VB MVP)

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Ken Halter - 22 Feb 2005 15:45 GMT
>>One way is to help a bunch of people and answer a whole lot of
>>questions....
>
> And then sacrifice a goat... or am I thinking of something
> else....

Way OT.. but, that reminded me of the first Yellowtail I caught... the
fishing boat crew and about half of the passengers were telling me that it
was "customary" for a fisherman to eat the heart of their first
Yellowtail... there was no way in the world that anyone was going to talk me
into that. Nope... not a chance in the world. Not me buddy.

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Randy Birch - 23 Feb 2005 01:59 GMT
Funny, I flashed the joke about the blond being asked if she knew what
Easter was, and finishing with "He was buried in a cave which was sealed off
by a large boulder ... and every year the boulder is moved aside so that
Jesus can come out and, if He sees His shadow, there will be six more weeks
of winter."

Don't quite know why? (scratch? scratch?)

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: >>questions....
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: Yellowtail... there was no way in the world that anyone was going to talk me
: into that. Nope... not a chance in the world. Not me buddy.
Frisbee® - 22 Feb 2005 18:29 GMT
>> Lot of MVPs here. I just want to know how One can become a MVP.
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Cripes man!  When do you sleep?

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Ken Halter - 22 Feb 2005 18:51 GMT
> Cripes man!  When do you sleep?

Judging by the quality of some of my replies, I sleep while posting to the
groups ;-)

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Joel Whitehouse - 22 Feb 2005 22:36 GMT
>>Cripes man!  When do you sleep?
>
> Judging by the quality of some of my replies, I sleep while posting to the
> groups ;-)

Ken, I'd just like to thank you personally for all the help you given me
over the years.  I've been around microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion
on and off since I was 12 or 13, and whether or not you are sleeping
when you make your posts, I've always learned a lot from reading them.

Thanks!

-Joel
Ken Halter - 22 Feb 2005 23:09 GMT
> Ken, I'd just like to thank you personally for all the help you given me
> over the years.  I've been around microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion
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> -Joel

Hey! That's darn nice of you to say Joel! (check's in the mail) ;-) fwiw, I
learn(ed) alot by hanging around here myself. Wouldn't trade it for 10
college courses <g>

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Jim Carlock - 23 Feb 2005 02:04 GMT
I don't know where I get these thoughts or if they are correct...

I think Karl Peterson lives in the state of Washington.
I think Randy Birch is a Vancouver Canuck.

But I've never been able to figure out Ken Halter. He's got that
Texas friendliness, there are alot of great folks in Texas that are
just down south warm and friendly, but Ken doesn't have their
drawl. He's got that UpNorth verbatim with the downsouth
demeanor.

I just don't know what city to place him in... but I would put
money on it that it's not in Seattle.

Don't tell me... I'll figure it out one day.

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> Ken, I'd just like to thank you personally for all the help you given me
> over the years.  I've been around microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion
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> -Joel

Hey! That's darn nice of you to say Joel! (check's in the mail) ;-) fwiw, I
learn(ed) alot by hanging around here myself. Wouldn't trade it for 10
college courses <g>

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Veign - 23 Feb 2005 02:10 GMT
Heres a hint: "solid to a gas" - wonder if Ken could even figure this hint
out...

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> I don't know where I get these thoughts or if they are correct...
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> learn(ed) alot by hanging around here myself. Wouldn't trade it for 10
> college courses <g>
Ken Halter - 23 Feb 2005 15:24 GMT
> Heres a hint: "solid to a gas" - wonder if Ken could even figure this hint
> out...

hmmmmm... my living room after eating at a Mexican resturant? ;-)

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MP - 23 Feb 2005 15:55 GMT
> > Heres a hint: "solid to a gas" - wonder if Ken could even figure this hint
> > out...
>
> hmmmmm... my living room after eating at a Mexican resturant? ;-)

oh, I thought it was... hmmm...change of state... oh he lives in a school
bus and does all his work on a laptop with a wireless modem....
(prolly runnin from creditors or the tax collector)
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Veign - 23 Feb 2005 16:00 GMT
I didn't want to make it easy....Shoot me an email if you want to know what
the hint means...

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> > Heres a hint: "solid to a gas" - wonder if Ken could even figure this hint
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> hmmmmm... my living room after eating at a Mexican resturant? ;-)
Veign - 23 Feb 2005 16:01 GMT
I see you already said where..

Sold to a Gas is referred to as Sublimation - Sometimes called Sublime
Sublime has a song called "Garden Grove"

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> > Heres a hint: "solid to a gas" - wonder if Ken could even figure this hint
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> hmmmmm... my living room after eating at a Mexican resturant? ;-)
Ken Halter - 23 Feb 2005 16:21 GMT
>I see you already said where..
>
> Sold to a Gas is referred to as Sublimation - Sometimes called Sublime
> Sublime has a song called "Garden Grove"

I would *never* have guessed <g> I wouldn't even know which radio station
plays Sublime music. I'm an *old* rocker. Led Zeppelin, Jethro Tull, Jimi
Hendrix.... now *that's* music <g>

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Veign - 23 Feb 2005 17:26 GMT
I figured most would not get that.  I don't like to post any information
about people on newsgroups so I made the hint difficult...

I don't think many people don't like Zeppelin - even me and I listen to alot
of hip-hop...

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> plays Sublime music. I'm an *old* rocker. Led Zeppelin, Jethro Tull, Jimi
> Hendrix.... now *that's* music <g>
Randy Birch - 24 Feb 2005 00:44 GMT
You forgot Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, and Pink Floyd. <g>

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: Hendrix.... now *that's* music <g>
Larry Serflaten - 24 Feb 2005 02:12 GMT
> You forgot Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, and Pink Floyd. <g>

Areosmith, Bad Company, Black Sabbath, The Greatful Dead....

I liked the more mellow side;  Chicago, The Doobie Bros.
Seals and Crofts, and one of my favorites, Yes.

:-)
LFS
Jim Carlock - 24 Feb 2005 02:28 GMT
There is unrest in the forest,
There is trouble with the trees.
For the maples want more sunlight,
And the oaks ignore their pleas.

Hard to believe Randy left Rush and Neil Pert out of it.

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"Randy Birch" <rgb_removethis@mvps.org> wrote
> You forgot Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, and Pink Floyd. <g>

Areosmith, Bad Company, Black Sabbath, The Greatful Dead....

I liked the more mellow side;  Chicago, The Doobie Bros.
Seals and Crofts, and one of my favorites, Yes.

:-)
LFS
Randy Birch - 24 Feb 2005 03:28 GMT
I know those bums <g>. Never big on their music - Geddy's voice does take
some getting used to. But some of their songs are great.

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Randy Birch - 24 Feb 2005 03:27 GMT
Loved Yes, and ELP (Emerson Lake & Palmer). And my fav on the mellow side is
Steely Dan.

I used to be a photographer, in the mid-late 70's, and our company was hired
by record companies to do PR shots of bands performing in Toronto. I
attended pretty well every rock concert in the city between 1976 and 1979,
and met everyone ... Chicago, Beach Boys, Boston, Fleetwood Mac, Jeff Beck
(the original), Santana, Rush (Toronto boys - Geddy lives about a half mile
away), Eagles, Jimmy Buffet, Chris de Burg, Meatloaf, Kansas, ELP, Electric
Light Orchestra, Heart, Blue Oyster Cult, Styx, Ramones,
Beck/Bogart/Appacie, Kiss, Stones, and a whack of others I'll remember after
this is sent.  Those were almost as good years as playing in a band myself.
<g>

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Larry Serflaten - 24 Feb 2005 13:01 GMT
> Loved Yes, and ELP (Emerson Lake & Palmer). And my fav on the mellow side is
> Steely Dan.

That's a good choice, another old band that had (what I thought) was good
listening music was Bread (If, Everything I Own, Baby, I'm a want You...)

> I attended pretty well every rock concert in the city between 1976 and 1979,
> and met everyone ...

Talk about being at the right place at the right time!  Some of the best artists were
out on the road at that time....

And just to put an end to the listing, let's not forget ZZ Top!

<g>
LFS
Ken Halter - 24 Feb 2005 15:20 GMT
>> You forgot Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, and Pink Floyd. <g>
>
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> :-)
> LFS

I saw Seals and Crofts at the first "California Jam" back in the 70's....
everyone was there. Can't say I'm a Chicago fan though... imo, there's very
little room in rock and roll for trumpets <g>. A good sax, on the other
hand, is always welcome <g>

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Ralph - 25 Feb 2005 02:24 GMT
I vaguely remember getting drunk with David Allen Coe in
Lake Charles LA in the middle 70's.

Any points?
Jim Carlock - 24 Feb 2005 02:18 GMT
And Peter Frampton, Mason Proffit and Black Sabbath...

But... definitely don't leave out The Eagles!

And while Don Henley, Glenn Frey were okay, what about
Joe Walsh, the James Gang and Funk #49? Who was the
other guy anyways?

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You forgot Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, and Pink Floyd. <g>

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"Ken Halter" <Ken_Halter@Use_Sparingly_Hotmail.com> wrote:

: "Veign" <NOSPAMinveign@veign.com> wrote:
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Randy Birch - 24 Feb 2005 03:41 GMT
Funk49 doesn't ring a bell, but I loved Grand Funk Railroad.

I met the Eagles at a concert they played in TO.  Jimmy Buffet was the
opening act, and he was great. The eagles sounded amazing - just like the
record amazingly. But there were problems - all called ego.  The concert was
at Maple Leaf Gardens, and when the band was moving from the visitor
dressing rooms used for visiting bands to the stage a whack of their
security team went out first and muscled the paying concertgoers out of the
way to clear a wide you-can't-talk-to-the-band birth through the halls and
onto the stage. At the post-show party Jimmy came in on-time, and was
amazing - talking to everyone, and anyone, and inviting all to sit down and
horse around.  Towards the end of the party in comes the Eagles advanced
guard security team, again muscling a path to ensure untouchableness, the
band came in for 5 minutes, spoke to a couple of record company execs, and
left.  We spent another couple of hours at what turned out to be an
incredible party with Buffet sitting contently surrounded by not only party
goers, but a few fans who had simply asked him if they could go the party
too. So two thumbs up for Jimmy, and a big raspberry for the Eagles.  The
music of both, of course, can't be faulted.

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: And Peter Frampton, Mason Proffit and Black Sabbath...
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:: plays Sublime music. I'm an *old* rocker. Led Zeppelin, Jethro Tull, Jimi
:: Hendrix.... now *that's* music <g>
Jim Carlock - 24 Feb 2005 04:42 GMT
Never seen the Eagles. Had cassette tapes of their albums
at one time before CDs came along... but that reminds me
of the 8-track of Iron Butterfly... and I just let go of an LP
Inna Gada Da Vida...

Yeah I like the drum stuff...

Saw Aerosmith in concert. That was pretty interesting.
Candlebox was their opening act. Nobody seems to know
anything about them any longer.

Had a blast at another hard rock concert in Miami.... forgot
all who played at that one... Judas Priest and three other hard
rocking bands. Had a blast at that concert but I don't remember
any of the songs or even remember listening to the music...
I plead not guilty... they had it coming, big doofy muscles, loud
obnoxious city boys who thought their muscles were impressive,
we thought so too, so we disappeared... my brother ran off the
stage with a Judas Priest amp.

I won't claim to know who dropped the cups of coke on some
muscles... just that I know it happened. I wonder if those guys
are still upset?

Might as well put Sammy Hagar in there as well. Saw him in
concert with someone else a few years ago... oh he was
the singer for Van Halen... and of all the funny things... David
Lee Roth was there too doing a solo...

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Funk49 doesn't ring a bell, but I loved Grand Funk Railroad.

I met the Eagles at a concert they played in TO.  Jimmy Buffet was the
opening act, and he was great. The eagles sounded amazing - just like the
record amazingly. But there were problems - all called ego.  The concert was
at Maple Leaf Gardens, and when the band was moving from the visitor
dressing rooms used for visiting bands to the stage a whack of their
security team went out first and muscled the paying concertgoers out of the
way to clear a wide you-can't-talk-to-the-band birth through the halls and
onto the stage. At the post-show party Jimmy came in on-time, and was
amazing - talking to everyone, and anyone, and inviting all to sit down and
horse around.  Towards the end of the party in comes the Eagles advanced
guard security team, again muscling a path to ensure untouchableness, the
band came in for 5 minutes, spoke to a couple of record company execs, and
left.  We spent another couple of hours at what turned out to be an
incredible party with Buffet sitting contently surrounded by not only party
goers, but a few fans who had simply asked him if they could go the party
too. So two thumbs up for Jimmy, and a big raspberry for the Eagles.  The
music of both, of course, can't be faulted.

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: And Peter Frampton, Mason Proffit and Black Sabbath...
:
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:: plays Sublime music. I'm an *old* rocker. Led Zeppelin, Jethro Tull, Jimi
:: Hendrix.... now *that's* music <g>
Randy Birch - 25 Feb 2005 00:18 GMT
At the Canadian National Exhibition during the mid-60's, the Automotive
building was turned into a teen music spot called "time being". I wend down
the first day and ended up in the Gibson booth just playing. At the end of
the night the Gibson sales manager wanted me to come back, as along with the
others I jammed with throughout the day, I'd/we'd made the booth the most
popular in the building. So I ended up spending the entire three-week Ex
period in the Gibson guitar booth jamming with whomever wanted to sit down.

At this venue, in the afternoons, we'd break for the free (as in $0)
concerts - just pull up the floor in front of an unsecured stage - literally
3 feet from the acts and listen. I remember seeing the Buckinghams (the
drummer also played the trumpet!) and - believe it or not - Townsend and the
Who. I got the neck from his smashed guitar after the concert. Don't have it
now.

: we thought so too, so we disappeared... my brother ran off the
: stage with a Judas Priest amp.

When I was playing our band, Buster Crab, played at Woburn Collegiate in
Toronto.  After the first break I saw that someone had stolen my wah-wah
pedal. Since I was from Cedarbrae about a mile away from Woburn, and knew
the right people there, my Woburn buds set off to search the neighborhood
for the thief. They found him, used his face as a pavement stamp, and were
back with the pedal before the end of the second set. You weren't in Toronto
then, eh? <g>

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Jim Carlock - 25 Feb 2005 01:25 GMT
> They found him, used his face as a pavement stamp, and were
> back with the pedal before the end of the second set. You
> weren't in Toronto then, eh? <g>

LOL You're talking like that happened in the mid-60s or late
60s. What year? If it was prior to 1970... Hmm.

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Randy Birch - 25 Feb 2005 01:40 GMT
<g>  Yea, around 1998/99 or so.

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Jim Carlock - 25 Feb 2005 02:04 GMT
1998... let's see... I was in Florida the whole year.

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<g>  Yea, around 1998/99 or so.

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Ken Halter - 24 Feb 2005 15:24 GMT
> You forgot Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, and Pink Floyd. <g>

Boy... it's been a long time since I've heard the name "Uriah Heep" <g>. How
about Bloodrock? Remember those guys? btw... the ringer on my cell phone
plays inagaddadavida (it rang while I was talking to Ed Hickey... his eyes
lit up <g>)

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Randy Birch - 25 Feb 2005 01:13 GMT
Hi Ken ...

Yep, I remember Bloodrock - I *really* liked some of their stuff. They're
still around too -or part of them:

BLOODROCK REUNION CONCERT WITH NITZINGER & SPECIAL GUESTS - A BENEFIT FOR
STEVE HILL

12 MARCH 2005 -SAT - 8 PM - RIDGLEA THEATER - 6025 CAMP BOWIE BLVD - Fort
Worth, Texas USA)

http://www.bloodrock.net/.

(That made me remember (don't know why) the very first live concert I ever
attended - Cream at Toronto's Massey Hall in 1966 I believe it was.  GAWD
was that loud.  That was where I fell in love with Marshal's, which I bought
about a year later.)

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inagaddadavida ... <emphasis>let me tell you a story.</>

In The Olde Days (when I was in high school), there were really only three
notable guitarists around. The first was Paul Naumann who later became the
lead guitarist of the one-hit wonder band "A Foot In Cold Water ("Make Me Do
Anything You Want" was their hit), myself, who jammed with Paul, and a
fellow named Brian (who had a band whose name I can't recall). Paul was an
amazing and a meticulous player as his lead riff in Make Me Do attests, and
he was considered the "best lead guitarist" in Scarborough (a suburb of
Toronto). I was considered the best rhythm guitarist in Scarborough. Brian,
a hard-rock guitarist, was really good but like a lot of others.

Anyway, Cedarbrae had annual talent shows and starting in grade 9 Brian's
band always played at the shows, and always played inagaddadavida. All 17
minutes of it. In grade 10 (my third year at the school) I got pissed
because there was no competition for him so I put a band together.

I primarily hung around with musicians from a nearby high school - Woburn -
playing with a bass player named Bruce Barrow, and a sax player, Nat Abrams
(who went on to play with Donnie Walsh's Downchild Blues Band). Occasionally
Prakash John (from another band with Dominic Triano called Bush and later
with Alice Cooper) would join too.  A guy named Des McAnuff was always our
singer (he went on to produce the play Tommy and the movie Adventures of
Rocky and Bullwinkle with Piper Perabo.
(http://www.tribute.ca/bio.asp?id=1907) (His daughter played Piper's child
alter-ego).

So I got Des, Nat and Bruce in this new band, and we recruited a few of the
best brass players from the Cedarbrae band along with a drummer I knew to do
a song off Blood Sweat and Tear's first album (pre David Clayton Thomas)
called Somethin' Going' On.  We had two weeks of practice after school,
sounding the song off the album and then playing.  The concert finally came,
we did our song, Brian's band did (drum roll) inagaddadavida. We got a
standing, and Brian, well, inagaddadavida went on and on and on and on and
on...

The band I threw together was meant to be a one-night only band, and so
after the gig and the party we "broke up". The next day Brian invited me to
join his band, which I agreed to do if we never, ever played inagaddadavida.
He agreed, we formed Buster Crabb, and were together for two years (and
never played inagaddadavida) touring Ontario playing every Friday and
Saturday night, usually at high schools and occasionally at Frat parties.
(Hence the claim on my Bio page that I found "girls love guys who play
guitar, and often".)  The cool thing was, that after failing grade 9 things
just clicked, so much so that it was no problem for both our parents as well
as the school to excuse us at noon on Fridays, and occasionally on
Thursdays, so we could drive to our next gig. Ontario is a huge province.

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(Hickey's eyes would probably not light up with my cell ringer - it's the
theme from hockey night in Canada. <g>)

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:
: Boy... it's been a long time since I've heard the name "Uriah Heep" <g>. How
: about Bloodrock? Remember those guys? btw... the ringer on my cell phone
: plays inagaddadavida (it rang while I was talking to Ed Hickey... his eyes
: lit up <g>)
Ken Halter - 25 Feb 2005 20:32 GMT
> Hi Ken ...
>
> Yep, I remember Bloodrock - I *really* liked some of their stuff. They're
> still around too -or part of them:

Yeah... iirc, they had an album (an album is a huge black CD that scratches
and warps easily for those too young to remember <g>) called DOA that was
great. I'm glad to see they're still alive and well...

> BLOODROCK REUNION CONCERT WITH NITZINGER & SPECIAL GUESTS - A BENEFIT FOR
> STEVE HILL
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> bought
> about a year later.)

I'm a "Fender guy" myself... I would like a Marshall though. They have a
crunch you just can't get from any other amp. Especially with a Gibson
plugged in. That's a team that can't be beat <g> Fender's are the "cleanest"
amps you can get imo... I'm not sure why I want that 'cause the first thing
I do is hook up my Digitech pedal <g> Mass distortion available <g> You
may've heard these (can't believe I'm releasing them to the public) but,
here are a couple samples I made when I first got my recorder... the sound
quality is pretty bad (won't mention my guitar playing quality <g>) Anyway,
one's just a bunch of noise and the other one has me playing lead with a
"store bought band" (blues jam tracks).

http://www.vbsight.com/mp3/Rambling.zip
http://www.vbsight.com/mp3/NewNumber7.zip

> ------
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Brian,
> a hard-rock guitarist, was really good but like a lot of others.

That's great! Since my ears are so bad, I can't pick up chords like some
others can. I play lead. I can play rhythm too.. just not "by ear" (my
nephew is great at that but can't do lead)

> Anyway, Cedarbrae had annual talent shows and starting in grade 9 Brian's
> band always played at the shows, and always played inagaddadavida. All 17
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
> as the school to excuse us at noon on Fridays, and occasionally on
> Thursdays, so we could drive to our next gig. Ontario is a huge province.

That's a heck of a story. Things never came together like that for me.
Either I'd be too busy or one of my pals would have a kid or something else
would go wrong that prevented us from getting serious. I played a few nights
at a club a couple years back as a "guest" for another friends band... but
the people I practice with were no where to be found. They're too busy
having kids <g> I ended up buying 6 or 7 of the jam tracks CDs so I can sit
and play with myself (don't bother.... I can come up with a few jokes about
that statement myself ;-) all night long.

Probably the most famous person that ever played my guitar was Walter Trout.
He's one of those guys that live down the street and can fill stadiums in
Europe but no one around here's ever heard of him <g> We practice at the
same studio so I see him once in a while... he signed my guitar case too...
very cool guy and an awesome guitarist (comes in 6th on BBC's "greatest
guitarists of all time" page (http://www.waltertrout.com/top20.htm) fwiw,
I'm not sure who was involved in the voting process but, imo, they're *way*
out of order... Eric Clapton just don't cut it afaic. Sure, he's good, but
to get 10 good songs, you need to buy 10 of his albums. Jimmy Page on the
other hand, is the best "all around" guitarist of all time imo. He can go
from... making you cry with blues, to making you want to square dance with
an acoustic, banjo or mandolin, to making you want to scream "YEAH!" with
his extremely hard rock style. Stevie Ray should be higher on that list too.
He is/was the man when it comes to blues.

I wish I would've hooked up with some guys that wanted to get serious. Oh
well...

> ------
>
> (Hickey's eyes would probably not light up with my cell ringer - it's the
> theme from hockey night in Canada. <g>)

LOL... Hopefully, hockey's doing better there than here <g>

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Randy Birch - 26 Feb 2005 02:17 GMT
Hi Ken ...

: I'm a "Fender guy" myself... I would like a Marshall though. They have a
: crunch you just can't get from any other amp. Especially with a Gibson
: plugged in. That's a team that can't be beat <g> Fender's are the "cleanest"
: amps you can get imo... I'm not sure why I want that 'cause the first thing

I have a fender now .. a 'dual professional' tweed jobby, nice sound and as
you said, clean as heck and it fits a lot better in the den. I've got a 95
USA strat, a 74 Tele blond, but I love the sound from a gibson sg gothic I
bought a couple of years ago, probably because back in '65 I used a cherry
SG special (that looked remarkably like the angus young signature model out
now).

: here are a couple samples I made when I first got my recorder... the sound
: quality is pretty bad (won't mention my guitar playing quality <g>) Anyway,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
: http://www.vbsight.com/mp3/Rambling.zip
: http://www.vbsight.com/mp3/NewNumber7.zip

I like the newnumber7 one ... and no need to criticize your playing, that's
for sure. Very nice. Which Digitech pedal do you have?  When I bought the
fender amp I got a zoom gfx-707 pedal as well (I have an original 1967
cry-baby downstairs <g>, but it needs some work on the electronics.)

Have you used a guitar bug?  I was thinking of getting one to relieve the
cord hassle.
(http://www.music123.com/AKG-WMS40-Diversity-Guitar-bug-i95371.music)

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Jim Carlock - 26 Feb 2005 04:54 GMT
Quite nice there, Ken.

Check out the guy at this link... http://www.corbyyates.com.
He has a couple free mp3's there. He lives out in Northern
California and have been told he's found in San Jose area
at times playing in a park free. I don't know, but I like his
music. Nice bluesie rhythms.

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Hi Ken ...

: I'm a "Fender guy" myself... I would like a Marshall though. They have a
: crunch you just can't get from any other amp. Especially with a Gibson
: plugged in. That's a team that can't be beat <g> Fender's are the
"cleanest"
: amps you can get imo... I'm not sure why I want that 'cause the first
thing

I have a fender now .. a 'dual professional' tweed jobby, nice sound and as
you said, clean as heck and it fits a lot better in the den. I've got a 95
USA strat, a 74 Tele blond, but I love the sound from a gibson sg gothic I
bought a couple of years ago, probably because back in '65 I used a cherry
SG special (that looked remarkably like the angus young signature model out
now).

: here are a couple samples I made when I first got my recorder... the sound
: quality is pretty bad (won't mention my guitar playing quality <g>)
Anyway,
: one's just a bunch of noise and the other one has me playing lead with a
: "store bought band" (blues jam tracks).
:
: http://www.vbsight.com/mp3/Rambling.zip
: http://www.vbsight.com/mp3/NewNumber7.zip

I like the newnumber7 one ... and no need to criticize your playing, that's
for sure. Very nice. Which Digitech pedal do you have?  When I bought the
fender amp I got a zoom gfx-707 pedal as well (I have an original 1967
cry-baby downstairs <g>, but it needs some work on the electronics.)

Have you used a guitar bug?  I was thinking of getting one to relieve the
cord hassle.
(http://www.music123.com/AKG-WMS40-Diversity-Guitar-bug-i95371.music)

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Jim Carlock - 26 Feb 2005 05:28 GMT
Either of ya have an amp with tubes?

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BT3 - 26 Feb 2005 06:15 GMT
yup, rectifiers getting harder to find though.  Just a matter of time.

BT3

> Either of ya have an amp with tubes?
>
> --
> Jim Carlock
> Post replies to newsgroup.
Randy Birch - 26 Feb 2005 21:34 GMT
Yep, the dual pro by fender is an all-tube amp.
http://www.broadway-music.com/catg/USD309000044454.html

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: Either of ya have an amp with tubes?
:
: --
: Jim Carlock
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Ken Halter - 28 Feb 2005 16:16 GMT
> Either of ya have an amp with tubes?
>
> --
> Jim Carlock
> Post replies to newsgroup.

Yeah... here's mine...

Hot Rod DeVille 410
http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0213201000

It's not "all tube"... It has two 6L6 Groove Tube output tubes and three
12AX7 preamp tubes but there's some electronic "wizardry" going on in there
too.

...and, here's my "axe"

50th Anniversary Series DC400TA (in Antique Brown, much darker than the one
shown on that page)
http://www.carvin.com/products/guitar.php?ItemNumber=DC400A

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Ken Halter - 28 Feb 2005 16:25 GMT
> Hi Ken ...
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> out
> now).

That's a nice collection there... I have my Carvin DC400TA and a SG Special
(plus a Yamaha 12 string acoustic)... in Black (Toni Iommi (Black Sabbath)
was my idol as a teenager so I had to have a black SG <g>)

> : here are a couple samples I made when I first got my recorder... the
> sound
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> that's
> for sure. Very nice. Which Digitech pedal do you have?  When I bought the

Thanks for that <g>

> fender amp I got a zoom gfx-707 pedal as well (I have an original 1967
> cry-baby downstairs <g>, but it needs some work on the electronics.)

Mine's the Digitech GNX3. It's a little too "digital" for me. There are no
analog sounds coming from this thing... It has a built in 8 track recorder
(which is what suckered me into getting it <g>). I haven't even scratched
the surface when it comes to sounds you can get out of this thing. Of
course, right after I got it, the price dropped $100 bucks and they came out
with a new model (which is far cooler btw)
http://www.digitech.com/gnx3video.htm

> Have you used a guitar bug?  I was thinking of getting one to relieve the
> cord hassle.
> (http://www.music123.com/AKG-WMS40-Diversity-Guitar-bug-i95371.music)

No... but, I'd surely like one <g>. They've dropped in price too. Maybe this
year.

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Stefan Berglund - 27 Feb 2005 00:04 GMT
in <uMuczk3GFHA.3196@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>

>http://www.vbsight.com/mp3/Rambling.zip
>http://www.vbsight.com/mp3/NewNumber7.zip

Tasty.  As soon as I get my B3 put back together and the room
addition is finished (can't even break ground yet because of all
the rain) I'll have to invite you down to HB for a jam.  More
than a little of Walter's influence there.  Very nice feel.

As good as your technique is you could easily teach yourself to
play by ear since you've demonstrated you can already do that.
You didn't learn to play like that from tablature.  I used a
Marantz PMD221 with a half speed that allowed you to record licks
then play them at half speed.  Do that for a while and your ear
develops.  I've always been the keyboard player who couldn't sing
but I get vocal leads in theater now because I trained my ear by
figuring out other guy's licks.  There's probably a digital
replacement for the Marantz.

---
Stefan Berglund
Ken Halter - 28 Feb 2005 18:08 GMT
> in <uMuczk3GFHA.3196@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> the rain) I'll have to invite you down to HB for a jam.  More
> than a little of Walter's influence there.  Very nice feel.

That's cool!.. HB's very close... and you're right... darned rain! It
managed to find leaks in my roof this year. New roof coming this summer <g>.

> As good as your technique is you could easily teach yourself to
> play by ear since you've demonstrated you can already do that.

Like I said... my ears are toast. Far too much loud music (and too many
unprotected trips to the shooting range) as a teenager <g>. I can pick
single notes out of the air but chords are tough. I can't figure out which
notes to combine to make the chord I'm hearing. It's very frustrating.

> You didn't learn to play like that from tablature.  I used a
> Marantz PMD221 with a half speed that allowed you to record licks
> then play them at half speed.  Do that for a while and your ear

My Digitech has something like that built in. I've played with it a few
times but nothing serious. I used to have software that would "decipher" a
chord for me (play the music and the software shows the fretboard fingering)
but it only ran on Win95/98 and I haven't seen it in years.

> develops.  I've always been the keyboard player who couldn't sing
> but I get vocal leads in theater now because I trained my ear by
> figuring out other guy's licks.  There's probably a digital
> replacement for the Marantz.

Sing? I can't chew gum and walk at the same time <g> Singing's out of the
question... That's an entirely different class of musicians imo.

> ---
> Stefan Berglund

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Randy Birch - 23 Feb 2005 02:34 GMT
Close - about two thousand miles off or so. <g> I'm in Toronto.

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:
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
: learn(ed) alot by hanging around here myself. Wouldn't trade it for 10
: college courses <g>
Ken Halter - 23 Feb 2005 15:23 GMT
>I don't know where I get these thoughts or if they are correct...
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Jim Carlock
> Post replies to newsgroup.

Gotta tell ya'... I "live" in SoCal (Garden Grove CA). Born in good ol'
Louisiana, down by the bayou, of course... everyone on my mom's side was
born in the thriving metropolis of Shinbone Alabama... a town so small that
everyone shared the same pair of shoes <g>. Dad's side, Missouri. Of course,
both of my parents walked 10 miles to school up hill both ways <g> You know
you're a hillbilly when your granddaddy's cause of death was..... his still
blowed up. <g>

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anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com - 23 Feb 2005 16:53 GMT
>-----Original Message-----
>>I don't know where I get these thoughts or if they are correct...
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>you're a hillbilly when your granddaddy's cause of death was..... his still
>blowed up. <g>

Or when your grade school has student parking.

-ralph
Ken Halter - 23 Feb 2005 17:03 GMT
> Or when your grade school has student parking.
>
> -ralph

LOL... yeah.. or you go to family reunions to meet women eh? <g>

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Bryan Dickerson - 23 Feb 2005 17:11 GMT
LOL!!  You guys have been watching too much Foxworthy and the Blue Collar
comedy guys!

> > Or when your grade school has student parking.
> >
> > -ralph
>
> LOL... yeah.. or you go to family reunions to meet women eh? <g>
Jim Carlock - 23 Feb 2005 20:37 GMT
LOL I traced to Ken's IP last night and a relative called...

The relative was my brother, and he then called another
relative, Uncle Jeff, and then Jeff called his brother... Jim,
so we had a fourway conversation, Jim Carlock talking
to Mike Carlock talking to Uncle Jeff Carlock who in
turn was talking to Uncle Jim Carlock... <g> They might
be great uncles come to think of it.

I was named after my Uncle Jim Carlock and his dead
brother, who drove off a cliff, William Carlock...

As for the mom's side of the family I traced their roots in
the past to some small towns in Alabama... LOL They
were hicks from Alabama... some small town...

I don't know much about music but I like that song,
The Sounds of Silence sounds appropriate...

And while we are talking about music and family, I don't
know how I'm related to this guy... but I know I'm related...
http://www.keithcarlock.com

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LOL!!  You guys have been watching too much Foxworthy and the Blue Collar
comedy guys!

"Ken Halter" wrote:
> > Or when your grade school has student parking.
> >
> > -ralph
>
> LOL... yeah.. or you go to family reunions to meet women eh? <g>
Ralph - 25 Feb 2005 03:04 GMT
>-----Original Message-----
>LOL!!  You guys have been watching too much Foxworthy and the Blue Collar
>comedy guys!

Foxworthy? Heck, son I lived it.

I could have written the "You Might Be a Redneck If..."
book 25 years before Jeff and be wealthier today.
Unfortunately all of it came under the heading of 'common
knowledge" nothing special or particularly funny.

I mean, of course, you helped take the wheels off - No
beer until they get pawned. Of course, granny keeps the
spit cup on the ironing board - what'd you want her to do
spit across the room? Of course mom got a black-eye at
the basketball game - if kin won't stick up for kin where
can you turn?

All seemed logical at the time.

-ralph
Randy Birch - 24 Feb 2005 00:42 GMT
when your father's cell number has nothing to do with a telephone, you know
you're a redneck.

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: >I don't know where I get these thoughts or if they are correct...
: >
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
: you're a hillbilly when your granddaddy's cause of death was..... his still
: blowed up. <g>
Randy Birch - 23 Feb 2005 02:00 GMT
Whatdaya mean?  The search clearly showed he answered all those in 2.75
seconds.  <g>

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: >> Lot of MVPs here. I just want to know how One can become a MVP.
: >>
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:
: Cripes man!  When do you sleep?
Ken Halter - 23 Feb 2005 15:53 GMT
> Whatdaya mean?  The search clearly showed he answered all those in 2.75
> seconds.  <g>

my keyboard was really smokin' <g> my backspace key is always the first to
go.

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Karl E. Peterson - 23 Feb 2005 22:34 GMT
> Whatdaya mean?  The search clearly showed he answered all those in
> 2.75 seconds.  <g>

So...  You're calling Ken a spammer??? <gd&r>
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Joel Whitehouse - 24 Feb 2005 16:25 GMT
>>Whatdaya mean?  The search clearly showed he answered all those in
>>2.75 seconds.  <g>
>
> So...  You're calling Ken a spammer??? <gd&r>

That would seem to be the implication.

-Joel
 
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