VB Help on "Printer"
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mquinsaat@gmail.com - 27 Mar 2007 18:38 GMT Can anyone point me to the right direction/s.
I have this one machine that is connected to an optical device, where the vendors of this machine won't allow us install anything on it except printers drivers. Here's my problem, the big boss wants us to integrate the captured images and reports generated by that optical machine to another application/system ,compeletely different application. The Optical machine can print a report, also can convert them to PDF , since I can only install a printer device, Can I somehow create my own Printer Device that will show up in the printer's list and whatever they try to "print" using my "own printer device" gathers the data , converts it to PDF and transfer it to the other application?
Thanks a bunch guys
Mike Williams - 27 Mar 2007 19:42 GMT On 27 Mar, 18:38, mquins...@gmail.com wrote:
> Here's my problem, the big boss wants us to integrate > the captured images and reports generated by that optical > machine to another application/system ,compeletely different > application. If he doesn't know how to do it himself then perhaps it's time for people to question why he is "the big boss" ;-)
Mike
Mike Williams - 27 Mar 2007 20:17 GMT On 27 Mar, 18:38, mquins...@gmail.com wrote:
> Can I somehow create my own Printer Device that will > show up in the printer's list and whatever they try to > "print" using my "own printer device" gathers the data, > converts it to PDF and transfer it to the other application? Sounds very much like an illegal "scam" to me!
Mike
mquinsaat@gmail.com - 27 Mar 2007 21:43 GMT ok.. i needed a very intelligent answer not just smart a.s and unintelligible answer and almost stupid answer.
Big Bosses aren't supposed to know programming , they Macro manage , FYI.
Anyway I found the solution.. thanks for the "wise" advice...
BeastFish - 28 Mar 2007 07:35 GMT Well, per your explanation, what you were asking could be construed as a form of "spyware". Or at the very least, something that violates the license of the vendor's equipment...
> the vendors of this machine won't allow us install anything on it > except printers drivers. If the above is part of the licensing agreement with the vendor, then what you propose most likely violates the license with that vendor.
If the mentioned optical device is in a retail setting (i.e., OCR check reader for cash registers), then what you propose is most likely theft.
> ok.. i needed a very intelligent answer not just smart a.s and > unintelligible answer and almost stupid answer. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Anyway I found the solution.. thanks for the "wise" advice... mquinsaat@gmail.com - 28 Mar 2007 20:24 GMT It is called integration. with third party vendors. And they dont want us to install anything other than printer drivers . Since it is a very senstive device.
SO FYI , VIRTUAL PRINTER IS THE ANSWER. which they have accepted.
Ask questions if it is vague or not clear before jumping into any conclusions...
Mike Williams - 28 Mar 2007 21:22 GMT > It is called integration. with third party vendors. And they > dont want us to install anything other than printer drivers . > Since it is a very senstive device. SO FYI , VIRTUAL PRINTER > IS THE ANSWER. which they have accepted. Well that definitely sounds a bit odd! Here is an extract from your original post:
" since I can only install a printer device, Can I somehow create my own Printer Device that will show up in the printer's list and whatever they try to "print" using my "own printer device" gathers the data, converts it to PDF and transfer it to the other application?"
Which leads me to a question. If you cannot install anything other than a printer driver then how did you manage to install this "other application" to which you want to transfer the "captured" data? And, since you are asking for VB code, how did you manage to install the VB runtime? And how are you going to manage to install the VB exe file?
All sounds very fishy to me!
Mike
BeastFish - 29 Mar 2007 08:49 GMT In three posts you've yet to inform us on what this optical device is or at least what it does in general. By "very sensitive device", do you mean sensitive to its surroundings, its environment (including the PC); or that it does things of a sensitive nature (processes sensitive data like check processing, voter registration, absentee ballots, tax preparation, etc.)?
BTW, I have worked on things of a sensitive nature... point of sale (credit card and check processing), voter registration, absentee ballots, and other things of which I am not at liberty to disclose. Your vagueness seemed elusive enough to send up a red flag.
> It is called integration. with third party vendors. And they dont want > us to install anything other than printer drivers . [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Ask questions if it is vague or not clear before jumping into any > conclusions... mquinsaat@gmail.com - 29 Mar 2007 16:51 GMT if it is is vague , ask questions , if one doesnt know the answer , please don't be a smart a.s, in my opinion, I asked the question if anyone knows how to build a printer driver, since this is the first time i encountered a vendor that would not allow system changes on their end to integrate into ours .
But I guess just some people, if they don't know the answer , they just smart mouth. and by the way , I have been working with all your systems ,web and client server , which inculdes optical devices and imaging devices including medical imaging devices.
again ask questions, its a good practice,believe me, specially in software design industry.
Adn it was a question on HOW.. i wasn't asking for your senseless opinions and conclusions.
BeastFish - 29 Mar 2007 20:45 GMT YOU are the one asking the question, soliciting assistance. It is YOUR responsibility to at least attempt to phrase your inquiry in a way that it doesn't get misconstrued. If you are offended that some may have concluded malicious intent, that is YOUR fault due to the way you presented your inquiry. But yet you respond with insults and calling people "smart a.s" and "senseless", with airs of entitlement and narcissism. We are here to help and assist, not to serve. We do not get paid for our participation in the newsgroups, we do it because we want to assist, help out others, add to the "knowledge base" of the newsgroup. We know the frustration of getting "stumpped" by a problem, we've all been there before so we wish to assist. Many here have their own software development enterprises, are consultants, have (or are retired from) long programming careers, etc.
The "conclusions" were not senseless... others have posted intentionally vague questions here in the past in attemps of get help creating viruses, spyware, malware, scams, illegal intents, etc., with the hope that folks here would be naive to such motive. Those that have participated here long enough have acquired a sense for when a questions "smells fishy". Not a single one of my replies were accusational, just pointing out how your inquiry could be misconstrued... why it "smelled fishy"... initially in reply to your insultuous and sarcastic reply to our resident graphics/printer guru. A general summation of your inquiry... "The big boss wants data obtained/generated by a vendor restricted optical device routed to another application"... if you can't see how that can be misconstrued as something potentially "shady" or unethical, then perhaps you are naive or inexperienced.
> if it is is vague , ask questions , if one doesnt know the answer , > please don't be a smart a.s, in my opinion, I asked the question if [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Adn it was a question on HOW.. i wasn't asking for your senseless > opinions and conclusions. mquinsaat@gmail.com - 29 Mar 2007 16:53 GMT another stupid question, did it ever occur to you that this machine is belongs to the network? and drives are accesible thru a sherad drive and can print using netwrok printers and this machine can only host one application??? wow are you really a developer?
Jan Hyde - 29 Mar 2007 16:58 GMT mquinsaat@gmail.com's wild thoughts were released on 29 Mar 2007 08:53:33 -0700 bearing the following fruit:
>another stupid question, did it ever occur to you that this machine is >belongs to the network? and drives are accesible thru a sherad drive >and can print using netwrok printers and this machine can only host >one application??? >wow are you really a developer? You've insulted each person that has attempted to help you.
Either you are a troll or misguided. My experience of these groups tells me you won't get any further help if you continue your tirade of abuse.
Calm down.
mquinsaat@gmail.com - 29 Mar 2007 17:02 GMT On Mar 29, 9:58 am, Jan Hyde <StellaDrin...@REMOVE.ME.uboot.com> wrote:
> mquins...@gmail.com's wild thoughts were released on 29 Mar > 2007 08:53:33 -0700 bearing the following fruit: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Calm down. help? did you read the thread?
BeastFish - 29 Mar 2007 20:58 GMT > another stupid question, did it ever occur to you that this machine is > belongs to the network? and drives are accesible thru a sherad drive > and can print using netwrok printers and this machine can only host > one application??? Has it ever occurred to you that WE CAN'T READ YOUR f.cking MIND???!!!
> wow are you really a developer? That's it, keep with the insults. The way in which you present yourself implies narcissistic rookie.
mquinsaat@gmail.com - 30 Mar 2007 01:05 GMT > <mquins...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > That's it, keep with the insults. The way in which you present yourself > implies narcissistic rookie. Yeah yeah no need to read minds to find that out moron.. go back and study logic BOY!....you will need it... or did you already? or are you just plain slow to pick up..
well thanks for all the "help"...
BeastFish - 30 Mar 2007 17:18 GMT Three points...
1) Would be great if "big boss" got to witness your behavior here. Any employee of mine would get severely reprimanded (at the least) for such behavior on the company dime.
2) You seem to exhibit signs of delusions of grandeur and/or social retardation... I suggest you get help from a qualified and competent mental health professional (seriously).
3) Undoubtedly others here have come to the same conclusion... You are not worth another second of my time. *plonk*
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