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mquinsaat@gmail.com - 27 Mar 2007 18:38 GMT
Can anyone point me to the right direction/s.

I have this one machine that is connected to an optical device, where
the vendors of this machine won't allow us install anything on it
except printers drivers.
Here's my problem, the big boss wants us to integrate the captured
images and reports generated by that optical machine to another
application/system ,compeletely different application.
The Optical machine can print a report,  also can convert them to
PDF , since I can only install a printer device, Can I somehow create
my own Printer Device that will show up in the printer's list and
whatever they try to "print" using my "own printer device" gathers the
data , converts it to PDF and transfer it to the other application?

Thanks a bunch guys
Mike Williams - 27 Mar 2007 19:42 GMT
On 27 Mar, 18:38, mquins...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here's my problem, the big boss wants us to integrate
> the captured images and reports generated by that optical
> machine to another application/system ,compeletely different
> application.

If he doesn't know how to do it himself then perhaps it's time for
people to question why he is "the big boss" ;-)

Mike
Mike Williams - 27 Mar 2007 20:17 GMT
On 27 Mar, 18:38, mquins...@gmail.com wrote:

> Can I somehow create my own Printer Device that will
> show up in the printer's list and whatever they try to
> "print" using my "own printer device" gathers the data,
> converts it to PDF and transfer it to the other application?

Sounds very much like an illegal "scam" to me!

Mike
mquinsaat@gmail.com - 27 Mar 2007 21:43 GMT
ok.. i needed a very intelligent answer not just smart a.s and
unintelligible answer and almost stupid answer.

Big Bosses aren't supposed to know programming , they Macro manage ,
FYI.

Anyway I found the solution.. thanks for the "wise" advice...
BeastFish - 28 Mar 2007 07:35 GMT
Well, per your explanation, what you were asking could be construed as a
form of "spyware".  Or at the very least, something that violates the
license of the vendor's equipment...

> the vendors of this machine won't allow us install anything on it
> except printers drivers.

If the above is part of the licensing agreement with the vendor, then what
you propose most likely violates the license with that vendor.

If the mentioned optical device is in a retail setting (i.e., OCR check
reader for cash registers), then what you propose is most likely theft.

> ok.. i needed a very intelligent answer not just smart a.s and
> unintelligible answer and almost stupid answer.
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>
> Anyway I found the solution.. thanks for the "wise" advice...
mquinsaat@gmail.com - 28 Mar 2007 20:24 GMT
It is called integration. with third party vendors. And they dont want
us to install anything other than printer drivers .
Since it is a very senstive device.

SO FYI , VIRTUAL PRINTER IS THE ANSWER. which they have accepted.

Ask questions if it is vague or not clear before jumping into any
conclusions...
Mike Williams - 28 Mar 2007 21:22 GMT
> It is called integration. with third party vendors. And they
> dont want us to install anything other than printer drivers .
> Since it is a very senstive device. SO FYI , VIRTUAL PRINTER
> IS THE ANSWER. which they have accepted.

Well that definitely sounds a bit odd! Here is an extract from your
original post:

" since I can only install a printer device, Can I somehow create my
own Printer Device that will show up in the printer's list and
whatever they try to "print" using my "own printer device" gathers
the
data, converts it to PDF and transfer it to the other application?"

Which leads me to a question. If you cannot install anything other
than a printer driver then how did you manage to install this "other
application" to which you want to transfer the "captured" data? And,
since you are asking for VB code, how did you manage to install the VB
runtime? And how are you going to manage to install the VB exe file?

All sounds very fishy to me!

Mike
BeastFish - 29 Mar 2007 08:49 GMT
In three posts you've yet to inform us on what this optical device is or at
least what it does in general.  By "very sensitive device", do you mean
sensitive to its surroundings, its environment (including the PC); or that
it does things of a sensitive nature (processes sensitive data like check
processing, voter registration, absentee ballots, tax preparation, etc.)?

BTW, I have worked on things of a sensitive nature... point of sale (credit
card and check processing), voter registration, absentee ballots, and other
things of which I am not at liberty to disclose.  Your vagueness seemed
elusive enough to send up a red flag.

> It is called integration. with third party vendors. And they dont want
> us to install anything other than printer drivers .
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Ask questions if it is vague or not clear before jumping into any
> conclusions...
mquinsaat@gmail.com - 29 Mar 2007 16:51 GMT
if it is is vague , ask questions , if one doesnt know the answer ,
please don't be a smart a.s, in my opinion, I asked the question if
anyone knows how to build a printer driver, since this is the first
time i encountered a vendor that would not allow system changes on
their end to integrate into ours .

But I guess just some people, if they don't know the answer , they
just smart mouth.
and by the way , I have been working with all your systems ,web and
client server , which inculdes optical devices and imaging devices
including medical imaging devices.

again ask questions, its a good practice,believe me, specially in
software design industry.

Adn it was a question on HOW.. i wasn't asking for your senseless
opinions and conclusions.
BeastFish - 29 Mar 2007 20:45 GMT
YOU are the one asking the question, soliciting assistance.  It is YOUR
responsibility to at least attempt to phrase your inquiry in a way that it
doesn't get misconstrued.  If you are offended that some may have concluded
malicious intent, that is YOUR fault due to the way you presented your
inquiry.  But yet you respond with insults and calling people "smart a.s"
and "senseless", with airs of entitlement and narcissism.  We are here to
help and assist, not to serve.  We do not get paid for our participation in
the newsgroups, we do it because we want to assist, help out others, add to
the "knowledge base" of the newsgroup.  We know the frustration of getting
"stumpped" by a problem, we've all been there before so we wish to assist.
Many here have their own software development enterprises, are consultants,
have (or are retired from) long programming careers, etc.

The "conclusions" were not senseless... others have posted intentionally
vague questions here in the past in attemps of get help creating viruses,
spyware, malware, scams, illegal intents, etc., with the hope that folks
here would be naive to such motive.  Those that have participated here long
enough have acquired a sense for when a questions "smells fishy".  Not a
single one of my replies were accusational, just pointing out how your
inquiry could be misconstrued... why it "smelled fishy"... initially in
reply to your insultuous and sarcastic reply to our resident
graphics/printer guru.  A general summation of your inquiry... "The big boss
wants data obtained/generated by a vendor restricted optical device routed
to another application"... if you can't see how that can be misconstrued as
something potentially "shady" or unethical, then perhaps you are naive or
inexperienced.

> if it is is vague , ask questions , if one doesnt know the answer ,
> please don't be a smart a.s, in my opinion, I asked the question if
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Adn it was a question on HOW.. i wasn't asking for your senseless
> opinions and conclusions.
mquinsaat@gmail.com - 29 Mar 2007 16:53 GMT
another stupid question, did it ever occur to you that this machine is
belongs to the network? and drives are accesible thru a sherad drive
and can print using netwrok printers and this machine can only host
one application???
wow are you really a developer?
Jan Hyde - 29 Mar 2007 16:58 GMT
mquinsaat@gmail.com's wild thoughts were released on 29 Mar
2007 08:53:33 -0700 bearing the following fruit:

>another stupid question, did it ever occur to you that this machine is
>belongs to the network? and drives are accesible thru a sherad drive
>and can print using netwrok printers and this machine can only host
>one application???
>wow are you really a developer?

You've insulted each person that has attempted to help you.

Either you are a troll or misguided. My experience of these
groups tells me you won't get any further help if you
continue your tirade of abuse.

Calm down.
mquinsaat@gmail.com - 29 Mar 2007 17:02 GMT
On Mar 29, 9:58 am, Jan Hyde <StellaDrin...@REMOVE.ME.uboot.com>
wrote:
> mquins...@gmail.com's wild thoughts were released on 29 Mar
> 2007 08:53:33 -0700 bearing the following fruit:
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Calm down.

help? did you read the thread?
BeastFish - 29 Mar 2007 20:58 GMT
> another stupid question, did it ever occur to you that this machine is
> belongs to the network? and drives are accesible thru a sherad drive
> and can print using netwrok printers and this machine can only host
> one application???

Has it ever occurred to you that WE CAN'T READ YOUR f.cking MIND???!!!

> wow are you really a developer?

That's it, keep with the insults.  The way in which you present yourself
implies narcissistic rookie.
mquinsaat@gmail.com - 30 Mar 2007 01:05 GMT
> <mquins...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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> That's it, keep with the insults.  The way in which you present yourself
> implies narcissistic rookie.

Yeah yeah no need to read minds to find that out moron..
go back and study logic BOY!....you will need it... or did you
already? or are you just plain slow to pick up..

well thanks for all the "help"...
BeastFish - 30 Mar 2007 17:18 GMT
Three points...

1)  Would be great if "big boss" got to witness your behavior here.  Any
employee of mine would get severely reprimanded (at the least) for such
behavior on the company dime.

2)  You seem to exhibit signs of delusions of grandeur and/or social
retardation...  I suggest you get help from a qualified and competent mental
health professional (seriously).

3)  Undoubtedly others here have come to the same conclusion... You are not
worth another second of my time. *plonk*
 
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