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VB Forum / General 2 / December 2004downgrading to VB6
I have been trying to get VB 6 and I learned about the downgrading process on this group. I called MS and they told me Visual Studio 6 was no longer available but Visual Basic 6 was. But I could only downgrade one version so I needed to buy Visual Basic. Net 2002. So I did that the next day and called back but now they say VB6 is no longer being made either and I am stuck. Has anyone else heard that VB 6 is completely discontinued, even for downgrades? Any advice? Thanks Eric > I called MS and they told me Visual Studio 6 was no longer > available but Visual Basic 6 was. But I could only downgrade > one version so I needed to buy Visual Basic. Net 2002. So I did > that the next day and called back but now they say VB6 is no longer > being made either and I am stuck. Did they really do that to you? Here in the UK you could take them to court for that and get your money back. But (and this is a big but) you would have to: (1) Be able to "prove" that they said that to you, and (2) Be rich enough to pay for all the legal costs, and of course if you were then gettin' your money back wouldn't really matter to you! Did they really do it, though? If they did then I'd screw them and just buy yourself a pirate copy for next to nothing. Mike > > I called MS and they told me Visual Studio 6 was no longer > > available but Visual Basic 6 was. But I could only downgrade [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Mike I saw this after poking around for 30 seconds... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51340&item=7123058046&rd=1 Caveat Emptor...;-), Neila > I saw this after poking around for 30 seconds... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51340&item=7123058046&rd=1 > Caveat Emptor...;-), Thank you, Neila. Long time since I've heard from that windy city. What's that Caveat Emptor stuff? Is it Welsh, or Gaelic or somefink? Mike > > I saw this after poking around for 30 seconds... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51340&item=7123058046&rd=1 > > Caveat Emptor...;-), > > Thank you, Neila. Long time since I've heard from that windy city. What's > that Caveat Emptor stuff? Is it Welsh, or Gaelic or somefink? caveat emp·tor (Pronunciation Key (mptôr)) n. "The axiom or principle in commerce that the buyer alone is responsible for assessing the quality of a purchase before buying."  SignatureDag. >>> I saw this after poking around for 30 seconds... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51340&item=7123058046&rd=1 >>> Caveat Emptor...;-), >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > "The axiom or principle in commerce that the buyer alone is > responsible for assessing the quality of a purchase before buying." I suspect he was being ironic, Dag, but thanks for the reminder of my years of Latin. If I recall it correctly, that phrase was used as an example of the sometimes subtle difference between the imperative mood and the subjunctive mood (or mode). "Cave canem" is imperative: "[you] beware [of the] dog" "Caveat emptor" is subjunctive: "[let the] buyer beware" The 'at' suffix is the signal, as in "Fiat lux" = [let there] be light". I can't believe that's still rattling around in there. SignatureJim > I have been trying to get VB 6 and I learned about the downgrading process > on this group. I called MS and they told me Visual Studio 6 was no longer [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Any advice? If you do some searching on the web, you may be able to find VB6 or even VS6 still available. (But be careful.) For example: http://www.thesoftwareguy.com/products.cfm?CatID=57 I have not done business with these people and have no idea whether the are reputable or not. Caveat Emptor. SignatureCharles Appel "A generation which ignores history has no past - and no future." Robert Anson Heinlein This came up a few weeks ago. Someone had a link (which I should have saved but didn't) to an MS page about downgrading. According to that page, if your .Net EULA (or any MS EUAL) specifies that "downgrading" is allowed then you don't need to ask MS at all. You can just use any VB6 CD that you can find or borrow, and it's legal. You only have to deal with asking MS if the option is not in the EULA, in which case it's a request for an exception to the rule and you're at the mercy of their whim. I haven't seen the .Net EULA, so I don't know what it says, but I would start there. -- _____________________________ mayayXXana1a@mindYYspring.com For return email remove XX and YY. _____________________________ > I have been trying to get VB 6 and I learned about the downgrading process > on this group. I called MS and they told me Visual Studio 6 was no longer [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Thanks > Eric Turns out that the MS rep who said VB 6 was no longer available was mistaken. I ended up being able to order it for $23. I was always aware that VB6 was available on Ebay for $150-200 but I was trying to work it cheaper with the downgrade and it eventually worked. Thanks Eric > I have been trying to get VB 6 and I learned about the downgrading process > on this group. I called MS and they told me Visual Studio 6 was no longer [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Thanks > Eric >Turns out that the MS rep who said VB 6 was no longer available was >mistaken. I ended up being able to order it for $23. MS Reps are a bunch of idiots In about 1997 MS UK told me that Visual Studio did not include VB >I was always aware that VB6 was available on Ebay for $150-200 but I was >trying to work it cheaper with the downgrade and it eventually worked. The problem with the stuff on EBay is that most of it is pirate/academic/upgrade In other words one is paying for a licence that does not exist |
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